Women crying is a load of bullshit, 100% of the time, every time

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/78dw0w/i_have_no_patience_left_for_tears/

Gradually my heart has hardened. I'm in a relationship now, and when she cries I sit. I stare. I ask "Are you done yet?" with a completely dry, emotionless voice. And she storms off, only to call me later when she realizes I literally don't care whether we ever make up, and will never be the one to apologize again. I can't summon any sympathy anymore. I feel nothing when they cry, except disdain. I can't help but remember all the times I've cried and instead of comforting me, she made everything about her. When I lost my family, she was only worried about why I wasn't giving her as much attention. I was breaking and she made herself the center of attention again. I remember that, and I'm not sad, or angry. I'm dead. I have no time left to devote to tears.

I thought I was the only one who felt this way toward women crying. In my last relationshit my then-gf would cry over me video gaming with a woman (OLDER women, either with boyfriends or without but I was never, ever interested and I told her as such, MANY times, before and after these damn crying episodes) and we would play TableTop Simulator or hang out in streams, etc whatever and talk with our group of friends on skype while we played, whatever.

Every. Single. Time. I played anything with one of them (it was literally 2 women, that's it. No relation to each other, nothing, just separate people) she would get jealous to the point she'd sit in the room and cry because I was having fun with like 3 other dudes and 1 woman in a video game.

So then I'd have to comfort her for an extensive period of time, away from what I wanted to be doing which was relaxing with my online friends on a day off, and soon I had to cut contact with the women and the rest of my online buds because I ended up keeping to having to cut a deal with her. "I'll just play for an hour with them and then stop immediately at the hour", etc. Led to a lot of dropped games and missing out on a lot of fun and friendships.

Eventually you just build up that barrier around your soul that women crying can't pierce through anymore and you're just like... fuck you, get over it. Eventually I started having to fake sympathy because I just kept thinking "it's the right thing to do... IT'LL BE OVER SOON..." so my days eventually were, at least two hours, of comforting a woman about me playing with friends on my days off.

Of course I learned that myself after she started hanging out with guys online, in Teamspeak, etc, but I never bothered her about it because she was having fun. I was jealous as fuck, (and I can't confirm this cause I worked, so) but I knew she wasn't sexy-ing them up online or whatever while I was at work. But I NEVER cried about it. Sure, it stressed me the fuck out, but I NEVER let it detract from her gameplay experience or anything like that. She KNEW it stressed me out to no end and made me feel jealous but, did she change her behavior like I did for her?

HELL NO. You're an idiot if you think a woman would change her behavior for a man, ever.

Women. Never again. Such a load of fucking bullshit.

How to remove memories of ex

I wish I could get hypnotized or take medicine to remove those memories.

But, the essence of it really is, we wouldn't be here without those experiences. Some of the places us men are right now are worse than other men's places, but... it is the sum of our experiences and our choices who make us who we are. 

I frequently think about what choices I did badly with my previous ex, what I could have changed or did better. And in a parallel universe, maybe I did make those choices. But we're us here, not in that other universe, so we have to live with the living hell that is our minds, putting us through that over and over again. Would I kill my other universe self to take his place? Honestly, with how happy I've been on my own, no. Companionship is nice but only worrying about myself is so much better, when you get right down to the nitty-gritty of it, really.

And some days are better than others. Like, tonight, I didn't go to sleep because of a dream I had last night. Stupid I know but I just really want to be exhausted and pass out than have another dream like that.

Some days I just want someone to shoot me, other days I'm happy to be alive. It's slowly transitioning into a 99% happy to be alive time, but... it takes time. A long time, depending on how much you were attached to them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/74yxqk/need_guidance_on_forgetting_my_last_ex_for_good/

Fixing posts idr what this was lul

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/#res:ner-page=5

Once again women don't think shit through and just take the damn shortcut

MGTOW

Yeah, I wish I could just discard years of memories on a whim and go fuck some other woman. Been having a bad time lately, myself. I mean, I could, but that doesn't remove the past spending money, spending time together, etc etc. Whereas with a woman it's like you're instantly a stranger to them and they don't know anything about you or mannerisms you both made up or anything like that.

It's really fucking weird dude.

Edit: A word

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/7501n4/isnt_it_amazing/

An odd dream I had to get down before work

I had this dream (typing because faster) where haley and a friend were caught in this weird MMORPG thing this scientist was running and I was trying to get them out of it and I got my buddy out of it but I ended up running around looking for haley and I couldnt find her so I was freaking out and looking in every room and store in the building and finally I just went outside the building and haley came out with a bunch of arrows and I was like what the fuck and had to break her out of the "game" per se even though it was real life. She was firing arrows into pieces of paper in the dirt, very expertly I might add but I figured that was a side effect of the game or something.

And slowly but surely I did and she came back to her senses and before that we were outside on some thing and we were spending time together and I asked her to get back into a relationship with me and she said yes and I kissed her and I was so happy, but then she started acting weird like she used to when she played WoW and I just got mad and walked away and came back and she was gone. and I looked at my phone and for some reason I had this app up where I could track her or her "character" and she was with 2 brown dots which were warriors in WoW and I was like what the fuck and freaked out and started running around looking for her because the game said she was right there where I was but she was not.

and then anyway we were in my friend's room and she told me she'd be right back and I tried to keep her there and say no please stay but she said she was going to bring the researcher back who put her into the game and I was like what? and she went off and came back with this lady in a purple sweater and a lab coat and black slacks and she told me her name and that she was a WOMAN not a guy and I mentioned something like "lol that doesn't matter" and she glared at me and I was like "okay okay chill it was a joke lol" and haley took this scanner thing and used it on me and it said I was of cuban descent (lol what) and a bunch of other stuff to make my "video game character" and I just told her I wanted nothing to do with it...

and then I woke up.

I feel very emotionally unstable right now and I have to go to work right now almost and I don't know what to do. I fucking hate these dreams with haley in them... I just want them to go away forever. I  haven't had a dream in a while but lately I've been having trouble sleeping (basically going to sleep at a good time (anywhere from midnight to 2:30AM) and waking up in 3 hours no matter what and am unable to get back to sleep and today I had to get some more sleep before my shift of 2-10 today and I just... after that dream I just want to off myself. I can't fucking take it anymore.

Last night I had issues thinking about times we had together and stuff and trying to clear my head and it seems like I always need something to distract me from thinking about us before. Some days are better or worse than others. I have a feeling today is going to be the unholiest day in terms of emotional pain for my mind.

I think I'm probably going to try and go to sleep when I get home today, maybe. I just... I don't know... I gotta get ready to go to work...

I also know what this dream represents, I'll write it when I get back.

"Sad, sad MGTOWs"? Nah.

http://www.metronews.ca/news/canada/2017/10/02/a-way-for-men-to-come-together-men-going-their-own-way-just-want-to-be-left-alone.html

It's true that there is "language" used that people may or may not like. But it's that language that lets people express how strongly they feel about somebody, or some topic, even if it is, as Barb puts it, deplorable. But I feel like that's her only argument here is that we talk shit about women. Why would we not? Most, of the people who are MGTOW, knowingly or unknowingly, victims of women ruining much of their lives, why would they not let their rage out in the form of hateful language? They just experienced the loss of a person that they loved, and they found out that person didn't love them back.

It's pretty much the stages of grief, going through the death of a relationship. There's always going to be some venting, even in the death of a person. Don't even get me started on the dissolving of a marriage, holy cow.

However, I do feel that some MGTOW websites do play on that anger, unfortunately, as exampled in the article here:

In the online forums, MGTOW members discuss dating, divorce, sports, philosophy, motorcycle clubs and what’s on their grills. Often when women are discussed, it is angrily. One feature of the MGTOW site’s profiles is to list how many women a user has helped remove from the forums, or “number of c—s punted.”

While I find the sentiment funny, this kind of stuff is how MGTOW websites drive traffic, by pulling in men who are mad at the world, at women, and want somewhere to vent to other men who have gone through the same thing, and they find that in MGTOW. A woman has no understanding of what a man goes through when a breakup or divorce occurs. To the woman, sure, we don't know either, but to us, most times, they throw us away like trash and are already onto the next guy or riding the cock carousel.

“It shows a complete lack of self-reflection,” she said. To MacQuarrie, the decision by these men to lead separatist lifestyles is more than just “a bit pathetic.”

This shows a lack of self-reflection, if I may, in this woman saying this statement. MGTOW drives men to be better versions of themselves in making men reflect on themselves for the good of their own lives. A lot of men have been in relationships so long, that they had to drop what they like to do to take care of their families, or because their wife didn't like their hobby, or their girlfriends didn't like their hobbies or them hanging out with their friends. They slowly get cut off from everything they like to do in favor of staying home, doing nothing, because their wives/girlfriends got rid of the items that they liked to pursue their hobbies doing, no matter what it was. They have to re-discover this stuff all over again, or maybe teach themselves new hobbies, while removing themselves from the date-able population of their own choosing. No man wants to pay additional alimony to another woman, or get cheated on because they maybe shared their feelings to a woman about their day and the woman found it "un-manly", or a variety of reasons, I don't know how females work. All we have are our experiences to go off of, we can't read minds, we aren't magicians, etc, whatever.

Kind of jumping around the article here, apologies.

“Very contrary to the view that some of these men put out, it’s really hard to lose custody of your children,” said MacQuarrie, the community director of the Centre for Research & Education on Violence Against Women. To MacQuarrie, these are men who feel they have lost their status and traditional sense of identity as providers in a shifting economy of globalization and downsizing.

One, this person is obviously not looking at MGTOW from a subjective view, because why would articles like these exist? http://www.buncherfamilylaw.com/Blog/2017/February/Sole-or-Primary-Child-Custody-What-are-a-Fathers.aspx

http://www.encyclopedia.com/social-sciences-and-law/law/law/child-custody

http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2016/03/15/more-time-for-dads-states-weigh-changes-to-custody-laws

(From '11 but still relevant here because of the gaps, and counts as recent I would say) https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/08/15/latest-u-s-custody-and-child-support-data/

There are so many more articles on mothers being awarded custody over fathers that it's not even funny. So many more. And these articles And in today's world, a father needs to be around for his kids, not a stepfather who may or may not feel connections to these children, not to mention some isolated cases where they have raped or abused children, much less new boyfriends or anything like that as well! But as I said these are isolated cases and are the exception, not the rule. But my point still stands.

I think I've made my point here, so. This reporter did not get an objective view on MGTOW, did not hang around /r/MGTOW, /r/MGTOW2 or /r/GenuineMGTOW(as iffy as that one is I suppose) or really delve into many MGTOWs minds about their situations and what it meant to be MGTOW.

I'd take this article with a grain of salt and move on. Honestly if I really cared enough I'd attempt to email that "director" my reply here as well but, eh, she won't look at it objectively, as I saw in this article. I suppose from a distance we do look like a bunch of women-haters, but if you really get into reading MGTOW, it's about men supporting each other in times of crisis and actually trying to assist one another, with our mental health and physical health, over the wonder of the internet.

Edit:

“They’re only reinforcing each other’s really distorted perceptions of what’s happening in the world,” she said. “They are confining themselves knowingly to a life of isolation and a lot of limitations. It’s sad.”

Also you'd be surprised how many MGTOW travel around the world and actually meet people, lady. We're not isolated at all. Hell, if you go to a damn job I'd consider a person not isolated. Hikikimoris (I think that's the word?) are isolated. Not MGTOWs. A married man or a man with a long-term girlfriend is more isolated than an MGTOW, to be quite honest.

Alright, alright. I could pick apart this whole article but, I'm done.