It's true that there is "language" used that people may or may not like. But it's that language that lets people express how strongly they feel about somebody, or some topic, even if it is, as Barb puts it, deplorable. But I feel like that's her only argument here is that we talk shit about women. Why would we not? Most, of the people who are MGTOW, knowingly or unknowingly, victims of women ruining much of their lives, why would they not let their rage out in the form of hateful language? They just experienced the loss of a person that they loved, and they found out that person didn't love them back.
It's pretty much the stages of grief, going through the death of a relationship. There's always going to be some venting, even in the death of a person. Don't even get me started on the dissolving of a marriage, holy cow.
However, I do feel that some MGTOW websites do play on that anger, unfortunately, as exampled in the article here:
In the online forums, MGTOW members discuss dating, divorce, sports, philosophy, motorcycle clubs and what’s on their grills. Often when women are discussed, it is angrily. One feature of the MGTOW site’s profiles is to list how many women a user has helped remove from the forums, or “number of c—s punted.”
While I find the sentiment funny, this kind of stuff is how MGTOW websites drive traffic, by pulling in men who are mad at the world, at women, and want somewhere to vent to other men who have gone through the same thing, and they find that in MGTOW. A woman has no understanding of what a man goes through when a breakup or divorce occurs. To the woman, sure, we don't know either, but to us, most times, they throw us away like trash and are already onto the next guy or riding the cock carousel.
“It shows a complete lack of self-reflection,” she said. To MacQuarrie, the decision by these men to lead separatist lifestyles is more than just “a bit pathetic.”
This shows a lack of self-reflection, if I may, in this woman saying this statement. MGTOW drives men to be better versions of themselves in making men reflect on themselves for the good of their own lives. A lot of men have been in relationships so long, that they had to drop what they like to do to take care of their families, or because their wife didn't like their hobby, or their girlfriends didn't like their hobbies or them hanging out with their friends. They slowly get cut off from everything they like to do in favor of staying home, doing nothing, because their wives/girlfriends got rid of the items that they liked to pursue their hobbies doing, no matter what it was. They have to re-discover this stuff all over again, or maybe teach themselves new hobbies, while removing themselves from the date-able population of their own choosing. No man wants to pay additional alimony to another woman, or get cheated on because they maybe shared their feelings to a woman about their day and the woman found it "un-manly", or a variety of reasons, I don't know how females work. All we have are our experiences to go off of, we can't read minds, we aren't magicians, etc, whatever.
Kind of jumping around the article here, apologies.
“Very contrary to the view that some of these men put out, it’s really hard to lose custody of your children,” said MacQuarrie, the community director of the Centre for Research & Education on Violence Against Women. To MacQuarrie, these are men who feel they have lost their status and traditional sense of identity as providers in a shifting economy of globalization and downsizing.
One, this person is obviously not looking at MGTOW from a subjective view, because why would articles like these exist? http://www.buncherfamilylaw.com/Blog/2017/February/Sole-or-Primary-Child-Custody-What-are-a-Fathers.aspx
(From '11 but still relevant here because of the gaps, and counts as recent I would say) https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/08/15/latest-u-s-custody-and-child-support-data/
There are so many more articles on mothers being awarded custody over fathers that it's not even funny. So many more. And these articles And in today's world, a father needs to be around for his kids, not a stepfather who may or may not feel connections to these children, not to mention some isolated cases where they have raped or abused children, much less new boyfriends or anything like that as well! But as I said these are isolated cases and are the exception, not the rule. But my point still stands.
I think I've made my point here, so. This reporter did not get an objective view on MGTOW, did not hang around /r/MGTOW, /r/MGTOW2 or /r/GenuineMGTOW(as iffy as that one is I suppose) or really delve into many MGTOWs minds about their situations and what it meant to be MGTOW.
I'd take this article with a grain of salt and move on. Honestly if I really cared enough I'd attempt to email that "director" my reply here as well but, eh, she won't look at it objectively, as I saw in this article. I suppose from a distance we do look like a bunch of women-haters, but if you really get into reading MGTOW, it's about men supporting each other in times of crisis and actually trying to assist one another, with our mental health and physical health, over the wonder of the internet.
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“They’re only reinforcing each other’s really distorted perceptions of what’s happening in the world,” she said. “They are confining themselves knowingly to a life of isolation and a lot of limitations. It’s sad.”
Also you'd be surprised how many MGTOW travel around the world and actually meet people, lady. We're not isolated at all. Hell, if you go to a damn job I'd consider a person not isolated. Hikikimoris (I think that's the word?) are isolated. Not MGTOWs. A married man or a man with a long-term girlfriend is more isolated than an MGTOW, to be quite honest.
Alright, alright. I could pick apart this whole article but, I'm done.
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