Tuesday, January 31, 2017

MGTOW Boys raised by women do not become MEN

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/5r7kis/boys_raised_by_women_are_in_fact_missing_much/

Can confirm, was raised by my mother for 10 years (0-10), went to live at my grandparents' house for 3, discovered my grandpa was the manliest dude ever, tried to follow in his footsteps, got moved out back with my mom at 14 and her pussy ass fucking new husband who did not teach me ANYTHING so now I feel like, at 24, almost 25, I missed a lot of "manly teachings" about life that I should have learned, but I didn't. That whole scene from that movie felt familiar (what I do with a bunch of dude customers at work) but at the same time made me cringe internally a bit.
I really wish I had been raised by my grandfather because my own dad is... not manly at all. He never taught me anything and was barely around us because he was the one working, and taking the brunt of the divorce and paying child support, barely seeing me and my siblings ever.
I really hope my generation is the last of that, but... it's all I can do is hope. I am an extremely wimpy guy and I wish I wasn't. I can't confront people IRL, I can't do jack shit. I wish I was half the man of some of the guys that come into my work are, shit.
I really hope that someday, the courts figure out that each gender (MALE/FEMALE, FUCKERS) child should be allocated time accordingly with each parent, a little more for their specific gender to each gender parent, if a divorce happens. But that'll never happen.

Monday, January 30, 2017

MGTOW marriage stats and Sexual Market Value

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/5r27jr/sexual_market_value_graph_rollo/

Women, I just don't understand.

I was left to my own devices
Many days fell away with nothing to show
And the walls kept tumbling down
In the city that we love
Grey clouds roll over the hills
Bringing darkness from above
But if you close your eyes,
Does it almost feel like
Nothing changed at all?
And if you close your eyes,
Does it almost feel like
You've been here before?
How am I gonna be an optimist about this?
How am I gonna be an optimist about this?
We were caught up and lost in all of our vices
In your pose as the dust settles around us
And the walls kept tumbling down
In the city that we love
Grey clouds roll over the hills
Bringing darkness from above
But if you close your eyes,
Does it almost feel like
Nothing changed at all?
And if you close your eyes,
Does it almost feel like
You've been here before?
How am I gonna be an optimist about this?
How am I gonna be an optimist about this?
Oh where do we begin?
The rubble or our sins?
Oh where do we begin?
The rubble or our sins?
And the walls kept tumbling down
In the city that we love
Grey clouds roll over the hills
Bringing darkness from above
But if you close your eyes,
Does it almost feel like
Nothing changed at all?
And if you close your eyes,
Does it almost feel like
You've been here before?
How am I gonna be an optimist about this?
How am I gonna be an optimist about this?

If you close your eyes,
Does it almost feel like nothing changed at all?



Courier for this one, gents and ladies. Adding some snowballing thoughts from the original journal entry. This song came on at work today and I hadn't heard it in a while, by the way. I thought it was extremely relevant right now because I would give my soul to get what I had back with her. To further our relationship, to better it, to help her and me to greater heights.

It's over now. I have no one to talk to about this and nowhere to go besides my apartment. Nobody cared about me like she did and now nobody cares about me at all.

But she has a family that loves her and a, I hope, now-boyfriend even if he's LDR that loves her as well.

She was my entire world, but I'm only a speck of dust in hers.

1/30/17
1:30AM

I can still remember our last hug. Her warmth, her arms around me, my arms around her. I can still smell her shampoo on her. Her fruity Juicy Fruit deodorant I would smell all the time when I hugged her or laid with her in bed. I can feel her arms around me if I really concentrate.


I... I don't know if I want to remember this. I cherished that hug at the time. I vowed to remember it forever it forever, because I knew she would never come back to me. I... I wouldn't turn her away if she wanted to come back. But I... I just feel like I went through what she did with me in the space of a few weeks what she got 3 months/years to work through, also talking to someone about it and working through it with someone. All I got was trying to blow off my problems which was not helping me at the time instead of talking to her like a real person. Or dragging her to an actual psychiatrist and actually getting her help like I always said I would instead of spending money on video games and food all the time like a fucking idiot. And we were broken up, not even together. There was no reason for me to care at that point. I just... I wish she would have forced it down my throat at the time I talked to my ex that THAT was my second chance if I wanted to actually use it on something dumb like that. I wish she would have drilled it into me. I wish it was like baseball where it was 3 chances instead of two. She can stick to that but can't stick to not schlicking while a man that still loves her is in the house, to another guy.

I don't get women. They don't make sense at all to me. You don't care about the guy that has a dick that could pleasure you better than you rubbing yourself off of some guy's voice on the internet.

I should say, you didn't care enough to care that I was here to do that shit stuff on the internet with a random fu guy on the internet, so why would you care about having sex with me? You obviously were just trying to get off, and you didn't care that I was here so... why not just use the dick that's here for your own selfish needs? So... just... what? Like, it makes no sense.

I'm not mad, but this will always befuddle me. I will try for the rest of my life to understand this. It is said that Einstein once tried to devote his life to understanding women. He switched subjects to fucking PHYSICS, and the related sciences. One of the hardest subjects known to mankind, over attempting to understand WOMEN. That's how fucked up women are, in the head. A fucking GENIUS could not figure out women and moved to the hardest known subject on this damn planet, this rock in the cosmos, in HUMAN EXISTENCE, to understand and further humanity, instead of frigging trying to understand women.

I... just... wat.


Me trying to figure women out.

Well it's almost 2AM now (as of typing this now, 2:16AM). Maybe I should change clothes and clean now. CLEANING TAKES FUCKING TEN GODDAMN MINUTES NOT INCLUDING DISHES. I will admit there were typically a significant amount of dishes but still, being asked to do other things besides the dishes and taking 4 fucking days to do them because you're playing World of Warcraft is fucking ridiculous. God, that's ALWAYS going to stick with me, lol. Christ.

Good night, good luck, and godspeed fellows. God I'd kill for a burger right now, christ. I had to steal 2 burgers at work today. Fudge. Next month will be better money wise hopefully. I really hope it is.

Sunday, January 29, 2017

useless 4chonz reply

>>720762270
I've considered moving back in with my mom + sister but... mom's a whiny bitch that asks me for cig money all the time and yells a lot and gets angry at the drop of a pin and sister is an annoying idiot so...

So much as it would be awesome to save money, I'd rather live by myself. This upcoming month (Feb) is the first month I'm actually going to be budgeting for MYSELF and only myself since my GF left me. It's fucking liberating not having a leech around to support, shit. And just buying food for myself as well and not someone else... oh man.

Saturday, January 28, 2017

UNtitled reddit reply



Got her on medication after we broke up (fucking don't know why I didn't do it sooner while we were together but she would cry and yell whenever I tried to get her to go outside so I just stopped). Fucked around, while I was still in the house, with a dude on the internet, for two weeks no less before she made a dumb move and did it while I was still at home. She thought I couldn't hear her do it over an extremely quiet stream I'd been playing on my speakers. She can't stealth masturbate for shit.

(Knew I still had feels for her too) So I booted her back to her house out of state. Was supporting her for a whole year hoping she got back together with me in my own apartment, feeding her, paying bills, putting a roof over her head. I raged at her for being such a fucking idiot for 3-4 hours that night.

This has happened to me twice with two separate women and I'm done. All they wanna do is get free shit outta you when they're normalized. They like, move back to "woman" status instead of "normal thought process of a human being". There's no point in interacting with women.

Saturday, January 21, 2017

EMAIL I ENDED UP SENDING

breakup email

FOR ALL TO SEE:


[No Subject]

People

Message body



Letter 2

Letter

If you need to contact me, do it through email, please.

There's literally no point in being friends if you're not going to actually talk to me somewhat instead of dick around on WoW all day.

I'm pretty sure you're not going to even notice I'm gone for quite a while, so have fun while you can before you have to get into the workforce.

Let me know when your mom sends money for me to send your stuff to you.

There's a lot of stuff I want to say but I know it's going to go unheard, so instead, I'm just going to relax by myself. One thing is for sure though, I regret supporting you that whole year. A whole lotta money and trying to make you happy enough to get back together for nothing, and honestly after that year of hell... no, fucking 3 years of hell, I can't say I'm not glad you're gone. 

It's funny because I realized Carol was right, you were just a fixture in my life and I didn't want that to change. I didn't even cry barely after you left. I came home, sat down in the room in front of my desk, and just put my head in my hands and cried 2 sobs. TWO. And then I was like, "fuck it." And then I got to work putting my desk together and getting the bed moved and making this place livable for me again. And for once, I ACTUALLY LOOK FORWARD TO GOING HOME. I have a fucking SMILE on my face when I go home. I laugh to myself about life and jokes I see and stuff that happens to me. When you were here, especially the last 3 years here, I actually disliked going home. I disliked going home to no sex, no friendliness, half-hearted hugs and kisses. When I was trying to put my all into the damn relationship, you were sitting there playing WoW. It's one thing for me to be doing that in the beginning, but at least I tried in the beginning. I believe you didn't cheat on me, but fuck man as soon as we were done I am 99% sure you were fucking around on the internet. There is absolutely NO way you weren't if you fucking masturbated with that guy with me in the house.

Any way that's it. I still have a lot more to say but it's falling on deaf ears. Fuck I'm even surprised you actually listened to me to leave considering how long it took you to clean the house whenever I told you to over the course of 4 days of me being at work for 8 hours.

Friday, January 20, 2017

MGTOW Man can't see children, goes to jail for murdering alcoholic ex-wife

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/5p37h9/why_mgtow_because_every_man_has_a_breaking_point/

Guys go to jail for missing child support payments?
Damn my dad missed like 20 years of child support payments and he's not in jail. All he did was flee the state. (including my siblings+me) My dad's a real fucktard though, I wish I was raised by my grandpa cause he was way more of a man than my father. My mom controlled every aspect of my dad's life and... eventually he didn't even get to see us. I was too young to understand that at the time but in my teens I started talking to my dad more and he seems genuinely happy I talk with him, whereas with my mom, she just asks me for money and cigarettes, isn't even happy to see me or hear from me ever.
That video though... fuck man. He even makes fucking bank and she fucked him over STILL. No contact with his kids, mom's fucking over the kids, no food in the house, 250/week for child support apparently, cops don't help BUT THEY'LL HELP THE WOMAN FUCKING ARREST THE DUDE FOR TRYING TO HELP HIS FUCKING KIDS. Cops dude. I know there's laws to follow but holy shit. The guy even went and saw a shrink and the shrink didn't even help him. ALL HE WANTED TO DO IS SEE HIS FUCKING KIDS. Is that so fucking hard? Man that part where he starts crying about not seeing his kids tore me to shreds man and I don't even have kids but... I would say I can imagine but honestly, I can't. I don't have kids, I can't even IMAGINE the pain... my dad's pain, every man's pain who can't see his kids man.
This man worked his ass off to give that bitch child support and she just fucking pisses it away on alcohol and getting fucked up.
Fucking bullshit, man. This guy shouldn't even be in jail for killing that bitch and trying to take care of his kids. I'm sorry, but I'd rather my kids be with me (if I had kids) than with an alcoholic mother who doesn't take care of my fucking kids.

MGTOW claims another life

Thanks for posting dude.
I'm 24 myself and just out of a 6 year relationship and... I thought it was going to be really shit not living with a woman around but... honestly I look forward to going home every night from work and just chilling out and relaxing now. I just lay back in my chair, watch streams and watch netflix and eat and I'm able to just relax and be me. I packed up all my dishes but 1 fork, spoon, knife and plate to make sure I wash my stuff after I eat and I dunno, it's just... nice.
It's nice not having someone around to feel like they're judging me, it's nice not having anyone around so I can just chill and not talk to anyone, it's just... I dunno. I feel pretty happy and it's very unexpected to be honest. I typically am one of those people who "needs to be in a relationship" but the more I experience life by myself, I'm just... extremely proud of myself and that's something I haven't felt in a long time.
I could get used to this. One of my female co-workers wants to put me "back on the market" but I'm always like "nope". I ain't spending my money on nobody but me now and that's the way I like it.

Wednesday, January 18, 2017

Haley left. 1/17/17.

Well it's almost time to go to work, but I may not be writing in this for a while (minus some 4chan/MGTOW stuff copy pasted). Haley left yesterday 1/17/17.

I really shot myself in the foot in the beginning of the relationship. Or rather chopped off my whole leg. How the fuck do people do relationships? If it's not push/pull then... what is it? What do you do when your partner denies you sex and then you deny them sex later because of it. Is that just not a thing?

I just really don't understand. I mean, I'm beginning to but it seems like a lot of people would take it as push/pull instead of just "meh, whatever, maybe sex/whatever/spend time together/ later". And I really feel like that's where I fucked up for sure.

In the beginning she wanted sex a lot, like a whole lot. And I kept putting her off which made her feel bad about herself. So then later I started wanting sex and she kept telling me no. Pretty much 3 years together with no sex.  At least she got some in the first 3, jesus christ.

And she made anything sexual seem like a damn chore too. I'll always remember that one time I mentioned getting a blowjob and she was just like "Oh yeah, I really need to do that" like it was a chore around the house or something. Like... could you make me feel any more worthless right now?

I made her feel like shit about herself and her body though, especially when I was 19/20. I don';t know why I did it but I did. I read that stuff in her journals... and it makes me sad. It really does. No woman deserves to be belittled like "oh you need bigger boobs" or "you need a bigger butt" or anything like that. Of course that's going to ride a woman's self esteem for years. I never should have said any of that stuff and just should have been happy I had someone. But now I have nobody. Just me, work, food, bills and rent. If I was a woman in a relationship with a guy like that, especially at the volatile age of 18/19... it'd wreck me.

And getting jealous over someone else's relationship instead of working through my own problems is not the way to solve anything by the way. You need to work through your own problems together as a couple. I really should have found a psychiatrist for her when we were together instead of afterward, cause now we're friggin broken up and apart but she's actually normal now. Before she left she was going places with me, going outside, to quikmart, whatever! I was like what the fuck.

And now I'll never find another person to love me again. But... maybe that's okay. I'll just focus on myself and working out and stuff (had a huge cheat day yesterday with pizza + brownies and the like just cause I wanted to feel better about her leaving and me being by myself) and just generally bettering myself. I might go to the doctor for testosterone injections as well, I'm not sure yet.

The other day I saw some pictures of my brother Drake, dude's actually got facial hair going on and stuff. Makes me wonder what the fuck is wrong with me when that fucker can have facial hair and crap but I don't. /sigh I dunno.

I work 2-10 the next couple days and then I'm off Friday. Have to go in for muh interview at Comcast at 9AM on Friday. Wheeee. Here's hoping I get hired for 15 dolla an hour.

Saturday, January 14, 2017

4chons moar

I've been around and posted the story multiple times and apparently got banned for it I'm pretty sure for some reason, so I can't really say (idk why I got banned really) but suffice to say it involves a person moving out I've known for years and she doesn't want to get back together and I just feel like I have no control besides over my own life which is a shambling mess.

I'm trying to eat right and get /fit/ but... it's a hard road. She's leaving on Tuesday I found out the other day, her parents bought her plane tickets and I know she's going to cut contact with me and I'll never fucking talk to her again. She said us getting back together isn't out of the picture but it's going to be years before that...

The medication I got her for her anxiety really changed her behavior and it fucking sucks. I'm glad she can function now but... fuck man.

I'm really just trying to distract myself with the internet, work and working out at home. But at the end of the night when all my favorite streamers have gone to bed, it's just going to be me.

And I can't handle me.

Tuesday, January 10, 2017

#dying

Pretty much going through this right now.

I'm probably not going to go into work (2 man teams as well unfortunately for each shift so I'm pretty much shafting someone) when I have to drop her off at the airport to send her back home in a diff state.

I'm going to be by myself. Never sleep next to anyone ever again, probably barely eat. 

I know I'm gonna fucking collapse as soon as I walk through my apartment door and shut it and just cry all day. I need to find a cheap gun on Craigslist to buy to off myself with or something cause I can't be on my own. If I'm by myself I'm going to tear myself to shreds mentally.

Years of a relationship down the drain because of another idiot in my life I got jealous of. She was perfect for me and I fucking ruined it. I wish I would have begged her to get back together with me but my dignity wouldn't let me.

Fuck dignity, I just don't want to be alone. I can't fucking handle it.

Saturday, January 7, 2017

fucking hell

Not sure if this is directly related but close enough:

With a girl for 6 years pretty much (couple months off) Relationship was originally long distance and she moved in with me after roughly a year of being togetherish LDR.


Girl has severe social anxiety, Used to go places with me the first 3 years, helped get groceries from the store (no car so I had to walk), moved out with me into my first apartment. Made a lot of progress on my life while working and supporting us. Last 3 years she didn't do shit because she was complaining about her self image. I myself literally am like, a potato torso so every time she said that she was preaching to the fucking choir. Does that stop me from doing errands? Fuck no it doesn't because I HAVE TO TO LIVE. But I just put up with it because I loved her. But fuck was it hell carrying back all those heavy loads of groceries every week.


I quit from my first job originally and went back a few years later (easy job with good pay IMO) and met a dude named Victor. Victor has a working relationship with a girl (woman has a job, can drive, isn't fairly lazy etc). I hang out with them for a while and realize, holy fuck. This relationship they have is what I'VE been working towards with my current gf.


Cue the last 3 months of the relationship. I'm super pissed off all the time, I snap at her all the time, get mad over every little thing.


I break up with her.


Then comes a whole year of me supporting her, living with me still because she told me she didn't want to go back home to her annoying siblings and family. I said, fine. I didn't make her pay half of rent (like a dumbass) (she worked online doing surveys for money) or half of utilities or anything.


The last 3 months here (Oct 2016-Jan2017) I started making her pay half of rent. Every 3 months of that year I would ask if she wanted to get back together. The answer was always no.


Keep in mind we were together 6 years and I still felt like I barely knew anything about her. She always just beat around the bush with a lot of stuff and was very "conservative" or "reserved". I should have seen this coming a mile away because it's exactly like my last LDR relationshit now that I think about it.


December 25th, xmas. I ask her to get back together one last time. She says no. I make a decision to keep her around for halving rent money, she agrees. I am still romantically interested in her at this point, and I made sure she fucking knew it all the time.


Cue last Thursday. I'm at home after work, bought a bunch of McDonalds for us to eat and just chill. She isn't eating any of it, I grab a Big Mac and some fries and chow. I'm sitting there watching a stream maybe like 30 minutes after I'm done eating and I just hear fucking HEAVY ass panting coming from the living room. I know this sound. But I don't want to believe it. I walk out there and walk up to her, she has her headset on and I just hear in a whisper "oh yeah cum inside me" while I see her just rubbing her crotch. I'm like "HEY." She freaks out and turns around in her chair while muting her mic on the keyboard. I ask what she's doing. She says nothing. I know what I saw, so I asked what she was doing again. She says nothing. I said you were fucking masturbating weren't you? She says nothing again. Then I realize she muted her mic, so she was actually TALKING to someone.


I wouldn't have cared if it was porn, but fucking christ. She's been jumping guilds in World of Warcraft for months. I kept telling her, hey, if you get into anything romantic or anything like that you need to let me know. She agreed.


I don't really remember much after that, it's all a blur. I know I freaked out and yelled for 3 hours at her at the top of my lungs. I'm pretty sure my whole apartment complex heard me. She didn't have the balls to fucking just leave after being interested in another guy, she was going to use me to stay supported with a roof over her head and food while fucking around.


What REALLY got me though was that she told me she told everything I literally did not know (or, had to guess about her tbh) to this guy. Mostly sexual stuff like kinks and the like. She never even confirmed this stuff with me, ever, even when I tried to broach the subject about it, she just danced around the subject and I just let it go. We were together 6 months before we did anything sexual or even implied she wanted anything sexual and now she's just sluttin' it up with this random fucking guy for TWO WEEKS, I found out, and she thought I wouldn't hear her because I had a stream on, and the guy asked her if she wanted to do sexytime stuff over Teamspeak and she agreed because her emotions took control. And when she said she thought I wouldn't hear her, I was like, "NO, you just didn't fucking THINK period. Even before you started this crap with this fucker you didn't even think about me did you?" She didn't say anything to that. She didn't say anything during the whole 3 hour tirade because she knew I was right about fucking everything.


She's leaving very hopefully this week. Her mother is paying for everything for her to come back home, thank fucking whatever is out there. I can barely interact with her anymore. Everyone I told when I said I was living with her after we broke up, said it was a mistake and I just brushed it off. Well that shit came back to bite me in the fucking ass. I even got her on medication for her fucking anxiety, spent over a hundred dollars on lyft rides getting her to the psychologist's (psychiatrist, whatever) office, went and got her meds for her, everything. I have no reason to believe she wasn't doing this during the whole relationship even when she said she wasn't now.


I'm a fucking mental and emotional fucking wreck. I could have beat her to a pulp that night but I didn't because I don't hit women. But I sure as hell hit our fucking concrete walls many times.


MGTOW is just starting to look a lot better to me every single day I come into contact with this bitch and any other women I run into at work. They're all self-centered cunts who just look after themselves and don't care about anybody else's feelings. I'm just done with women, there's no point in any of it. I really need to get motivated and start working out more though for sure.

Goddamn have I learned my fucking lesson from this shit. Now I need to decide if I want to stay here and have no money or move back in with my family and have SOME money.

Fucked up shit

Dear Hales,

I understand we're broken up. And I understand you wouldn't care if I cyber-sex'd with a woman online because you just dropped me like a fucking hat. But you still sexed it up with a guy online even though I was in the house and you know I'm still in love with you and care about you.

Goddamn you're a fucking dumb bitch. That medication changed the fuck out of you. You're just a normal woman like the rest of em now. You don't care about my feelings. I thought you needed to love someone before getting sexual with them. Motherfucker that guy knew your kinks after 2 weeks and I didn't know them after 6 years because you kept not wanting to talk about it, but you'll talk about it with some fucking dude you barely know?

You deserved that 3 hours of yelling and belittling. You didn't even have the balls to say you wanted to move back home. Two weeks you did that with that guy and if your emotions didn't override your rational thought a few days ago I might still be unaware I was being fucking KEKED. A relationship does not fucking entail falling in love with someone, it entails any kind of emotional attachment to anyone at all.

You didn't even say anything back to me to defend yourself because you're a slut and a fucking leech. I supported you for 6 years, tried to help you with your anxiety and to get a job and I even got you medication after we broke up. Fucking shit there's a dick right here that can fucking service you but you wanna rub your clit to some fucker on the internet, fine, whatever.

And what really, REALLY pisses me off is that if you said you wanted to get back together I'd hop on that shit in an instant because I know you're the only person who might actually slightly love me. I will never find another woman like you. Fuck, I'm too scared to even look for another woman because they're all fucking nuts and cry rape whenever men just say hi to them.

Post limit so fuck you. You're just a basic bitch and a dumb slut now.

-R

(There was more I wanted to type on 4chons but hit the post limit. I really need to drop this cause it's really unhealthy to think about now)

Monday, January 2, 2017

4chons feels

>A woman wrapping her legs around you shoving your cock into her more and hugging you to her and her to you, as she cums, moaning wildly and becoming really stiff as she cums, then relaxes like putty melting in your arms

I miss it, fuck

never gonna get another woman but that is the BEST feel IMO. I like cuddling too but that is the most intimate thing I've ever had

Also, I miss not having responsibilities but that's a whole other can of worms I guess